## Craters on the Moon??? The Evolutionists must be really desperate!

In their crazy battle against Christianity to come up with something like this just shows how desperate the Evolutionists must be!

I found this pic in an article about Creationism, well at least that's what it claims:
"The Wild, Wild World of Creationism" by Frank R. Zindler, on the noanswersingenesis.org.au site.

Stating to be about Creationism, it then launches into an attack on Henry Morris, the president of the Institute for Creation Research in San Diego, who did mention some curious things explaining how Mars and the Moon may have been cratered.
Yes, I am using a 'may have been' here! It fits.

Looking at the quotes I would say these are simply ramblings or musings and definitely not meant to be dogmatic. And sure the position he held certainly made him a prime target for these evolutionists. But this is not Creationism. Most Christians who believe in Creation probably don't believe a fair bit of what he is saying here. I have been a Christian for many years and I had never heard of this theory about moon craters.

In any case, the possibility is at least open that the fractures and scars on the moon and Mars, the shattered remnants of an erstwhile planet that became the asteroids, the peculiar rings of Saturn, the meteorite swarms, and other such features that somehow seem alien to a "very good" universe as God must have created it may have been acquired later. Perhaps they reflect some kind of heavenly catastrophe associated either with Satan's primeval rebellion or his continuing battle against Michael and his angels....
Evolutionists quoting Morris.

Evolutionists want to rag these musings? Seriously? We have comments like "the possibility is at least open", and "Perhaps they reflect." Hardly dogmatic statements.

And Evolution articles are riddled with comments like "may be", "may have been" and such stuff. If you want to have some fun just read any article where the Evolutionists are trying to explain how the birds survived the K-Pg extinction event when three-quarters of the plant and animal species on Earth, along with the non-avian dinosaurs, supposedly perished 66 million years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretaceous%E2%80%93Paleogene_extinction_event

We believe the birds survived because blah blah blah...

What's the old saying? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I think the Evolutionists should have left this one well enough alone!

So again to title an article about Creationism and then launch into an attack on "creation science", or Henry Morris's musings, I would say is a little dishonest.

But this may be a good thing. If this is the best the Evolutionists can do, I don't think Christians really have much to worry about. Not that they ever did.

Oh, I nearly forgot about the pic:

Seriously? Is this the best the Evolutionists can do?

I could probably hold a round rock about 10 cm wide in my hand for throwing comfortably. We have no accurate dimensions on angels so let's go with the simplistic size of double for Satan. This is all guesswork so it doesn't really matter. So let's assume he can pick up and comfortably throw [according to the above silly pic] a moon rock with radius 10 cm.

A quick internet search for moon rock density gave values between approximately 2500 to 3500 kg/cu.m. Let's use 3000. And for what we are doing here we hardly need any accuracy at all.

This would give a moon rock with mass 4π or approx 12.6 kg.

Satan, being an angel though fallen, should be able to throw a rock of much greater mass than that.

Now what about God? What size rock could He throw back at Satan?

Well being God and of infinite power, let's just go with something simple, like an intermediate-mass black hole with mass 1000M* or approximately 2 x 1033 kg made of solid rock.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole
* the M here is the mass of the Sun.

In principle, any object - even a rock - can be made into a black hole
https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/seuforum/bh_whatare.htm

A black hole with a 3000 km radius event horizon banging around the far side of the moon should do some pretty serious damage!

Well that definitely wouldn't leave much of the Moon. Being a black hole probably wouldn't leave much of our Solar System either.

So much for the above pic.

Just out of curiosity I wondered what the event horizon for this black hole rock God would be throwing at Satan might be. I found the following formula:

r_s=(2GM)/c^2 or (2G)/c^2M

and elsewhere a doc gave

The radius of a black hole is related to its mass by the simple formula R = 3 M ,where M is the mass of the black hole in units of the sun's mass, and R is the radius of the Event Horizon in kilometers.
https://chandra.harvard.edu/edu/formal/math/7Page81.pdf

R = 3M?? That just looks too good to be true. I had to check this. And it took a simple adjustment in the formula using km instead of metres. Anyway the constant part is simply (2G)/(c^2) which gives:

(2G)/(c^2) approx (2 xx 6.6743 xx 10^(-20))/(3 xx 10^5)^2 approx 1.48318 xx 10^(-30)

a bit messy but in the R = 3M formula the M is in units of the Sun's mass whereas the M in the rs formula is complete mass. The difference is a factor of the mass of the Sun or approximately 2 xx 10^(30)2 × 1030 kg.
so we simply take the above answer and multiply by the mass of the Sun and believe it or not we get approximately 3.
So it does actually give R = 3M [approximately].

Then for a black hole of mass 1000M we have 1000 units of the Sun's mass. Then using the formula R = 3 M we obtain the radius of the event horizon as

3 xx 1000 = 30003 × 1000 = 3000 km.

Probably a bit smaller than I was hoping for but a black hole with a 3000 km radius event horizon banging around the far side of the moon should do some pretty serious damage. Actually one bang and the Moon is gone!

The pic is really bonkers but I believe it shows that the evolutionists really didn't think this one out.

If God and Satan decided to hold a rock slinging match on the far side of the Moon I seriously doubt that craters would be an issue. More than likely our whole Solar System would be destroyed in the process.

The gravitational force from a black hole of size 1000M in our Solar System would very quickly make it of size 1001M. As I said, craters would definitely not be an issue. And since this is just musing, given God is all powerful, why not have Him temporarily suspend the gravitational force of this black hole so He can easily clobber Satan with a rock this size without seriously damaging the rest of our Solar System?

And given that God is all powerful, why not have Him temporarily suspend the gravitational force of this black hole so He can easily clobber Satan with a rock this size without seriously damaging the rest of our Solar System?

Of course the craters on the Moon were not formed by any rock ping-pong match between God and Satan.

So what about Frank R. Zindler's article?

1. The title is wrong. I believe in Creation so that would make me a Creationist. I don't believe in this Moon cratering stuff and I seriously don't think many other Christians would either. In short, it's not a standard belief.

2. It's not really honest to label an article about Creationism and then launch into an attack on "creation science", or at least Henry Morris's musings.

3. It's actually two-faced. To attack a Christian over some ramblings or musings when Evolution articles are riddled with this sort of stuff is quite hypocritical. You don't need to read far to run into comments like "may be", "may have been", "could have" etc, and not to mention my favourite: "and oh! what a big if!" That last one's Darwin himself!

I don't think I need to make any further comments on this.

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